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In an interview in the latest issue of Ring magazine, when asked who among those he fought hit the hardest, his answer was Hamed. I guess if Hamed hit him with a shot like I have on my signature, he could've gotten KO'd.  Yeah that punch by Pac looks powder puff.  |
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The past days I have witnessed injustices here, that in honest conscience, I cannot play blind to, just for the sake of having a place to hang out in, enjoyable as hanging out here may have been.
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« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2006 - 11:28AM » |
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Yeah I read that article. It was a toss between Pacquiao and Hamed...but gave Hamed the final nod as the hardest hitter.
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« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2006 - 11:33AM » |
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Yeah I read that article. It was a toss between Pacquiao and Hamed...but gave Hamed the final nod as the hardest hitter.
I was surprised. I was expecting that he'd pick Junior Jones!  |
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It is with a heavy heart that I will say what I have to say. I would be lying if I will say that I did not enjoy my stay here at Pacland. I have made a lot of friends here, whom I hope I will still be able to call friends in the outside world. However, like having to break up with a loved girlfriend whom you have determined you can no longer continue a relationship with, though the affectiondoes not automatically shut off, still the break has to happen.
The past days I have witnessed injustices here, that in honest conscience, I cannot play blind to, just for the sake of having a place to hang out in, enjoyable as hanging out here may have been.
So, that being said, I would want to request a MOD, who does not feel like I'm telling him what to do to kindly lock or delete this thread. I have had good memories here and would not want to have those memories tarnished by having our home in this site continue with none of the original members of the ECP around. If this could be the l
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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2006 - 12:27PM » |
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Hmmm...That's kind of odd that Barrera said that. I don't remember Hamed landing a single power punch in their fight. Maybe I need to watch that fight again. I just think Barrera is full of shit. He just refuses to give Manny any credit. I guess it's what he's gotta to do to psych himself into fighting Manny again.
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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2006 - 12:28PM » |
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I was surprised. I was expecting that he'd pick Junior Jones! Actually, I thought for sure if he didn't say Manny, he'd say Fana was! |
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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2006 - 12:32PM » |
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I think the reason he picked Nas was cuz he was up for the Nas fight and felt the force of his shots but he was ready for them . It was the biggest night of his career .
Jnr Jones and Pac werent considered big threats to him .He wasnt as up for those fights so the shots had more effect. Anyone who has boxed will understand
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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2006 - 01:43PM » |
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I think the reason he picked Nas was cuz he was up for the Nas fight and felt the force of his shots but he was ready for them . It was the biggest night of his career .
Jnr Jones and Pac werent considered big threats to him .He wasnt as up for those fights so the shots had more effect. Anyone who has boxed will understand
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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2006 - 01:54PM » |
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Any boxer who has an ounce of talent, who knows what he is doing knows that is one big lame excuse.
lame excuse  Nas' record suggested he was one of the biggest hitters in history |
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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2006 - 01:58PM » |
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lame excuse Nas' record suggested he was one of the biggest hitters in history True that! But history also suggests that Nas is the biggest over hyped punk biatch ever in the featherweight division. Probably any division! |
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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2006 - 01:59PM » |
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True that! But history also suggests that Nas is the biggest over hyped punk biatch ever in the featherweight division. Probably any division!
Nas has never been stopped in 3 rounds |
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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2006 - 02:09PM » |
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Any fighter tends to be biased for personal reasons. Hell, Pacquiao's been telling everybody that Marco was his toughest opponent. Even claimed that Barrera was better than Marquez but we all know he demolished Barrera while Marquez gave him fits. Sounds crazy just as Barrera's opinion is right now.
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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2006 - 02:17PM » |
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Nas has never been stopped in 3 rounds
You speak the truth, Kimosabe! But a true champion in his prime comes back from a setback like that to regain his greatness. Manny did! Marco did! Erik did! Nas went home and got fat!!! |
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« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2006 - 02:23PM » |
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Nas achieved alot and couldnt be motivated to do anymore .Money is the driving force for most boxers
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« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2006 - 02:36PM » |
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Nas achieved alot and couldnt be motivated to do anymore .Money is the driving force for most boxers
Just come out with it bro! Are you a Nas nuthugger?? He was in a very tough division with great fighters lined up to get a piece of him. He failed in his 1st attempt then called it a day. What a fluke if there ever was one!! |
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« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2006 - 02:38PM » |
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What was a fluke ?
Im a Brit and if I were a Nas supporter I wuda backed him . He would have beaten Erik , JMM and Pac but I always knew that the greatest 1 of them all Marco Antonio Barrera always had his number. That guys in a different league
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« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2006 - 02:55PM » |
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lame excuse Nas' record suggested he was one of the biggest hitters in history  I don't know where the confusion is........The lame excuse is not how big a hitter The Prince is.....it's about the opinion that Barrera wasn't up for those two fights....... |
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« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2006 - 02:59PM » |
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I don't know where the confusion is........The lame excuse is not how big a hitter The Prince is.....it's about the opinion that Barrera wasn't up for those two fights....... Ofcourse he wasnt up for Pac and Jones . They were nobodies who have been k.o'd before . Why would a great like Barrera get motivated for that when he was such a big heavy . IF Pac was a big name and Barrera came out assertive and his usual slef I wouldnt consider it a fluke or if the odds were even . But everything suggests that it was an offnight . Build up/fight itslef /fights since / previous records etc , it all suggest the result was a fluke |
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« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2006 - 03:03PM » |
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What was a fluke ?
Im a Brit and if I were a Nas supporter I wuda backed him . He would have beaten Erik , JMM and Pac but I always knew that the greatest 1 of them all Marco Antonio Barrera always had his number. That guys in a different league
I'm calling Nas a fluke. Not just 1 fight in particular. I'm saying Nas the fighter was a well marketed fluke. You can say that he would have beaten Erik, JMM, and Pac but there's really no way of ever knowing that. I think those 3 fighters would have torn him a new ass. I don't mean to disrespect your fighter in a personal way. Just expressing my opinion. PEACE!! |
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« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2006 - 03:06PM » |
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We are all entitled to our opinion . If you believe Nas was nothing thats fine. The Vegas judges didnt think that when he fought Barrera
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« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2006 - 03:09PM » |
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We are all entitled to our opinion . If you believe Nas was nothing thats fine. The Vegas judges didnt think that when he fought Barrera
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« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2006 - 03:21PM » |
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Ofcourse he wasnt up for Pac and Jones . They were nobodies who have been k.o'd before . Why would a great like Barrera get motivated for that when he was such a big heavy . IF Pac was a big name and Barrera came out assertive and his usual slef I wouldnt consider it a fluke or if the odds were even . But everything suggests that it was an offnight . Build up/fight itslef /fights since / previous records etc , it all suggest the result was a fluke
I guess Jones beating Barrera the first time was a fluke, beating him the second time also was a fluke in your opinion. ...hmmm.....I wonder how Barrera could not have gotten himself psyched up for that one...I don't know what would be a bigger motivation, I guess the first loss and a chance for redemption was not enough...he just took Jones lightly...... Pacquiao coming up along the ranks before the fight with Barrera, with Pacquiao knocking opponents out left, right and center, I guess was not much of a motivation as well...... Barrera could've been undefeated then if only he was ready all the time..... |
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« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2006 - 03:27PM » |
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I'm calling Nas a fluke. Not just 1 fight in particular. I'm saying Nas the fighter was a well marketed fluke. You can say that he would have beaten Erik, JMM, and Pac but there's really no way of ever knowing that. I think those 3 fighters would have torn him a new ass. I don't mean to disrespect your fighter in a personal way. Just expressing my opinion.
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The Prince was not a fluke. No boxer can compile a record like that and be deemed as a fluke. It's just too bad that he didn't stick around to take on the best....him leaving boxing like that has tainted his reputation more than anything. |
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« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2006 - 03:45PM » |
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The Prince was not a fluke. No boxer can compile a record like that and be deemed as a fluke. It's just too bad that he didn't stick around to take on the best....him leaving boxing like that has tainted his reputation more than anything.
A fighter's record alone doesn't tell the entire truth. Butterbean has a more impressive record but I don't think anyone in their mind would call him a great fighter. Who did Nas beat?? A washed up Kelly?? The Pocket Rocket who he couldn't KO? I think Nas was a fluke. Most will probably disagree with me and that's ok. I gotta to admit - I never like him in the first place but I always watched his fights. The man packs a wallop! He was fun to watch. But that was all. He had no boxing skills and truly one dimentional if there ever was one! When he decided to hang up the gloves after Marco kicked his ass, I realized he has no heart. He was a mere product of an excellent marketing machine and it had ran its course. |
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« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2006 - 04:00PM » |
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Barrera could've been undefeated then if only he was ready all the time.....   nice one pareng dante.. |
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« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2006 - 07:28PM » |
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at 126 Hamed was clearly the harder hitter, he had ONE punch knock out power AT 126 Pac didnt.
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« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2006 - 07:31PM » |
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A fighter's record alone doesn't tell the entire truth. Butterbean has a more impressive record but I don't think anyone in their mind would call him a great fighter. Who did Nas beat?? A washed up Kelly?? The Pocket Rocket who he couldn't KO? I think Nas was a fluke. Most will probably disagree with me and that's ok. I gotta to admit - I never like him in the first place but I always watched his fights. The man packs a wallop! He was fun to watch. But that was all. He had no boxing skills and truly one dimentional if there ever was one! When he decided to hang up the gloves after Marco kicked his ass, I realized he has no heart. He was a mere product of an excellent marketing machine and it had ran its course.
Come on, you comparing Butterbean with The Prince? Come on man, Hamed won his share of titles and you cannot take that away from him, regardless of who the champs were that he beat. Against the best of the world who knows, Barrera put on a clinic in their showdown but it wasn't as if he got TKO'ed. He was hyped up, he was cocky, a showboat, some people didn't like it, some people did, I for one loved the way The Prince came into the scene and made people notice the lighter divisions again. He came in with a bang, raw, fresh, talented with an attitude. He will not go down as a great like a Barrera or a Morales, but he did win his share of belts, he did put his stamp in boxing and that is something that cannot be taken away from him. |
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